Kathy Frankel is a long time meditator. In this episode we have a grounded and meaningful discussion on how meditation has transformed Kathy’s life. We cover depression as a numbing, a not-feeling, and how meditation helped Kathy when other means did not, the awareness and healing power of finally seeing the patterns of our own mind, or monkey mind, and how Kathy's practice shows up in her protest and activism work.
At the top of the show, Kyley and Eva discuss:
Kathy Frankel is a long time meditator. In this episode we have a grounded and meaningful discussion on how meditation has transformed Kathy’s life:
“For one thing, I don’t feel depressed anymore, because I realized that for me, depression was just a cover of things I as actually feeling, but didn’t want to admit.”
— Kathy Frankel
“Mine was emotional depression, not chemical depression. More like a black cloud. Once I realized I could watch my mind, when I could see the patterns of the mind, they weren’t always pleasant to see, but I wasn’t hiding from it anymore. So the depression was gone. If I hadn’t done meditation, I don’t think it would have gone away.”
— Kathy Frankel
“I’m trying to find a way to maintain compassion and kindness for people who don’t believe the way I do, yet at the same time, point out that this is not right. I think it’s one of the most important parts of my practice right now. ”
— Kathy Frankel
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